I was just chattin' with Joe (not his real name) a person who claims to be a believer (and I think he is..) that actually told me: God hates all sinners because they're an abomination.
His words to me: "God is not politically correct. Read: Romans 8:25 and forward. 'And he gave them over to depraved minds. Women with women, men lusting for men.] God considers the sin of homosexuality an abomination. Yes, God hates the sinner.'"
I responded with: False. If God were flying a B-52 plane over a whole nation of individuals who each sadly opted to become a homosexual and then lived like that, then God (who hates all sins) might indeed feel like bombing that nation ..abomination (personal definition)..but God would weep if they chose to go there. He does love them more than words can describe and would love each of those so called gay individuals all the way to hell. He already expressed and demonstrated this love. Why? Cuz God is just but merciful. and HE really loves all of us sinners (+++ at Calvary tell us so).
Q: What else has great clout and clearly tell us so? Answer: "Jesus loves me—this I know, for the Bible tells me so." Yup.
But Joe then responded with: "I offer Sodom and Gomorrah as a good example. Bombs away! Just a thought. God never equivocates! He is straightforward with His thoughts on sin and the consequences. Kurt, you are right...He loves his children all the way to pulling the lever to release the bombs."
My words to Joe: "God..straightforward - yes! Not PC - correct. Never equivocates - true. He doesn't lie. Really hates all sins - yes. But God never destroyed those towns due to Him hating the perverts there. He did cuz he hates sinful perversion that ill-effects several others.. and our loving God acted to protect other people. Love always protects. Sure, it was indeed a judgment on the sinners there who rebelled against Him and His proper order (because they actually were not his children)."
Me—Hey, I've never had their prob, I don't fully understand it, and won't disrespect or look down on them for their wrong choices. But me—one ginormously-big mess without Jesus. I'm a saved-sinner who is now better off, not better than.. anyone. And I feel so grateful that God loves sinners before they even turn and become His children ..via true repentance (involving fruit meet for repentance—a change) and simple faith. Not just words. He loved enough to act (to send Jesus for us all). And this is the same God as in the Old Testament...that so wanted Israel to be a witness to all the nations so that they wouldn't ever come under His judgement.
arms nailed down . blood stained the ground . you can be found . what a lovely sound
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him." John 3:16-17
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him." John 3:16-17
Remember well ..that hell was not made for people, it was originally made for the devil ..a real person.. and all fallen angels. This is true and very basic stuff. That's where they and all unrepentant sinners will go...the ones who rejected God's only provision for our sins—Jesus Christ.
If you are a sinner, then know that God loves you right now! No one does or has more.
"For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Romans5:7-8
"But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved.." Ephesians 2:4-5
"I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God. who loved me and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
"In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another." 1 John 4:9-11
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"Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you." 1 Peter 5:6-7
Check out how well my friend Dan addresses this topic of sinners being loved by God.
FYI: The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were wicked towns. They were guilty of several different sins and it's very interesting to do a study on em all.. from the context of what these people actually did that hurt the Lord. Go for it. If you like, you can start by looking at Genesis 18:16-19:29, and Leviticus 18. They all were loved by God, but they chose to blow it before God in many areas, but foremost among them all was the serious sin of homosexuality. In that part of Leviticus, God gives clear directives not just for ritual purity, but commands to be observed by every Jew, and even every visitor. Living gay (in Homosexuality) according to God was wrong for the Jews, wrong for the gentiles who visited the Jews ("aliens") and it was even an abomination that defiled the land when practiced by pagans who inhabited Canaan long before the Jews came on in. It's a defiling sin - homosexuality is, regardless of which human practices it. That is from God. It has no place before God among any people, in any age, then or even now. If you are a Calvinist or are into hyper Calvinism and don't feel like evagelizing, please see my comments below.
FYI: The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were wicked towns. They were guilty of several different sins and it's very interesting to do a study on em all.. from the context of what these people actually did that hurt the Lord. Go for it. If you like, you can start by looking at Genesis 18:16-19:29, and Leviticus 18. They all were loved by God, but they chose to blow it before God in many areas, but foremost among them all was the serious sin of homosexuality. In that part of Leviticus, God gives clear directives not just for ritual purity, but commands to be observed by every Jew, and even every visitor. Living gay (in Homosexuality) according to God was wrong for the Jews, wrong for the gentiles who visited the Jews ("aliens") and it was even an abomination that defiled the land when practiced by pagans who inhabited Canaan long before the Jews came on in. It's a defiling sin - homosexuality is, regardless of which human practices it. That is from God. It has no place before God among any people, in any age, then or even now. If you are a Calvinist or are into hyper Calvinism and don't feel like evagelizing, please see my comments below.
